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		<title>By: Weekly Email: 3 September 2009 &#171; Culture Politick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Email: 3 September 2009 &#171; Culture Politick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Internet Observatory Report’ out this October a regular blog reveals what Europeans do at night, HERE; daily P2P (Peer to Peer) traffic trends – ‘highly suggestive of either persistent congestion [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Two-Year Study of Global Internet Traffic Will Be Presented At NANOG47</title>
		<link>http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/what-europeans-do-at-night/comment-page-1/#comment-232082</link>
		<dc:creator>Two-Year Study of Global Internet Traffic Will Be Presented At NANOG47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Observatory blog post series: http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/what-europeans-do-at-night/ http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/the-internet-after-dark/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Observatory blog post series: <a href="http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/what-europeans-do-at-night/" rel="nofollow">http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/what-europeans-do-at-night/</a> <a href="http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/the-internet-after-dark/" rel="nofollow">http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/the-internet-after-dark/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Beckemeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Beckemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are North American Internet users doing on the Internet late at night?

Talking to Europeans? -- And Asians?</description>
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<p>Talking to Europeans? &#8212; And Asians?</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson Barton</title>
		<link>http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2009/08/what-europeans-do-at-night/comment-page-1/#comment-223427</link>
		<dc:creator>Hudson Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This data largely matches my own on the fluctuations of Skype usage, which I have been looking at for more than 5 years.  Some of my data is displayed at http://ckipe.com/borderless/ .  The main difference is that I am looking at one particular cloud of traffic, but worldwide.... which I parse into three regions (The Americas, Europe/Africa, and Asia/Pacific). I&#039;ll note for you that there is a lot of seasonal fluctuation.  That&#039;s something I don&#039;t think you have looked at yet.  Anyway, I&#039;d love to compare notes sometime.   You can contact me on Skype (garnet_stone).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This data largely matches my own on the fluctuations of Skype usage, which I have been looking at for more than 5 years.  Some of my data is displayed at <a href="http://ckipe.com/borderless/" rel="nofollow">http://ckipe.com/borderless/</a> .  The main difference is that I am looking at one particular cloud of traffic, but worldwide&#8230;. which I parse into three regions (The Americas, Europe/Africa, and Asia/Pacific). I&#8217;ll note for you that there is a lot of seasonal fluctuation.  That&#8217;s something I don&#8217;t think you have looked at yet.  Anyway, I&#8217;d love to compare notes sometime.   You can contact me on Skype (garnet_stone).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Labovitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Labovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather then reply individually, some general responses to the above comments:

- I agree CEST would have been more representative of European traffic. GMT was just simpler since our native data collection infrastructure uses UTC and I could skip a conversion step. 

- Having fond memories of late night tapas in Madrid and more than a few nights in a Cork pub (as well as a varied array of other cities and countries in between), I understand the challenge in viewing Europe as single, cultural monolith -- it clearly is not.

- Unfortunately, our data granularity is mostly at the level of continent -- without a significant amount of work, we cannot easily tease out traffic patterns by individual country.

- The traffic is the sum of outbound and inbound. We explicitly excluded tier1 transit networks to avoid bias from Europe / Asia traffic going to US based content / servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather then reply individually, some general responses to the above comments:</p>
<p>- I agree CEST would have been more representative of European traffic. GMT was just simpler since our native data collection infrastructure uses UTC and I could skip a conversion step. </p>
<p>- Having fond memories of late night tapas in Madrid and more than a few nights in a Cork pub (as well as a varied array of other cities and countries in between), I understand the challenge in viewing Europe as single, cultural monolith &#8212; it clearly is not.</p>
<p>- Unfortunately, our data granularity is mostly at the level of continent &#8212; without a significant amount of work, we cannot easily tease out traffic patterns by individual country.</p>
<p>- The traffic is the sum of outbound and inbound. We explicitly excluded tier1 transit networks to avoid bias from Europe / Asia traffic going to US based content / servers.</p>
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		<title>By: tamas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Europeans have a life?

Seriously, all the above arguments are cancelled out. The dinner time drop of North American traffic suggests that the influence of other regions routed through there is small. The cultural variation of different dinner times in Europe would be enough not to expect a European dip, and there is none. Thus the observation remains: Europe has shorter Internet day. None of the above gives an explanation for that (except for the suggestion that Europeans use home internet less -- which would explain it, but I think it&#039;s bogus), and I do not have a clue either. 

Is it possible at all to get country level data? Would that even make technological sense?

In any case, brilliant question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Europeans have a life?</p>
<p>Seriously, all the above arguments are cancelled out. The dinner time drop of North American traffic suggests that the influence of other regions routed through there is small. The cultural variation of different dinner times in Europe would be enough not to expect a European dip, and there is none. Thus the observation remains: Europe has shorter Internet day. None of the above gives an explanation for that (except for the suggestion that Europeans use home internet less &#8212; which would explain it, but I think it&#8217;s bogus), and I do not have a clue either. </p>
<p>Is it possible at all to get country level data? Would that even make technological sense?</p>
<p>In any case, brilliant question!</p>
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		<title>By: Flow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Digest for August 19th - The zeitgeist daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Digest for August 19th - The zeitgeist daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The surfing day - Cash-Bandit.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The surfing day - Cash-Bandit.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that may not be entirely true, according to an interesting blog post by Arbor Networks, which monitors internet traffic. They&#8217;ve set about comparing usage patterns in the US and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that may not be entirely true, according to an interesting blog post by Arbor Networks, which monitors internet traffic. They&#8217;ve set about comparing usage patterns in the US and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Devang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try comparing with India and China also along with US and Europe. Also show a comparison of actual traffic in a chart.
I don&#039;t need to explain how, you know it better...
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try comparing with India and China also along with US and Europe. Also show a comparison of actual traffic in a chart.<br />
I don&#8217;t need to explain how, you know it better&#8230;<br />
:)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Steiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Steiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! You caought me (European) surfing the web at night while all the rest of the people in my town are sleeping or watching TV :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! You caought me (European) surfing the web at night while all the rest of the people in my town are sleeping or watching TV :-)</p>
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